No Suitable Topic
I have been thinking about writing about this issue for a long time but finally our honorable HRD minister Arjun Singh gave me the opportunity. Yes the topic is of reservation.
To start off with numbers, OBCs account for nearly 50% India’s population. And hence this fact gives government the right logic to provide the 27% reservation in elite institutions like IIT-IIM and other central universities.
(Why not 50% for SC ST OBC, 13% religious minorities, 12% brahmans, 6% women, 10% Persons whose name start with M, remaining 9% for the proles)
Let us first look at the logic behind it. As what Mr. Arjun Singh said "Thus, advancement of socially and educationally backward classes of the citizens (OBCs) in matters of admission - including reservation of seats and any other means - is an existing constitutional scheme and by no stretch of imagination is a new announcement".
To counter the same
Personally I am a believer of equality of opportunity not of equality of distribution. And what the government is doing here is the latter. Without the basic fundamentals being clear one cannot expect a student to get through the curriculum of IITs/IIMs/Central Universities. With the steps that government is taking, it is not bringing the level of OBC students up rather plummeting the standard of these elite institutions. These institutions are considered to be the epitome of meritocracy. They are the face that Indian market is projecting to the west as sign of its prowess. Now diluting the same would be pushing oneself back 50 years. Can you imagine that tomorrow when you wake up and pick up the new paper and come across a news item saying:
To start off with numbers, OBCs account for nearly 50% India’s population. And hence this fact gives government the right logic to provide the 27% reservation in elite institutions like IIT-IIM and other central universities.
(Why not 50% for SC ST OBC, 13% religious minorities, 12% brahmans, 6% women, 10% Persons whose name start with M, remaining 9% for the proles)
Let us first look at the logic behind it. As what Mr. Arjun Singh said "Thus, advancement of socially and educationally backward classes of the citizens (OBCs) in matters of admission - including reservation of seats and any other means - is an existing constitutional scheme and by no stretch of imagination is a new announcement".
To counter the same
Personally I am a believer of equality of opportunity not of equality of distribution. And what the government is doing here is the latter. Without the basic fundamentals being clear one cannot expect a student to get through the curriculum of IITs/IIMs/Central Universities. With the steps that government is taking, it is not bringing the level of OBC students up rather plummeting the standard of these elite institutions. These institutions are considered to be the epitome of meritocracy. They are the face that Indian market is projecting to the west as sign of its prowess. Now diluting the same would be pushing oneself back 50 years. Can you imagine that tomorrow when you wake up and pick up the new paper and come across a news item saying:
BCCI has decided to reserve 49.5% player’s position for SC/ST/OBC
You can’t have merit suffer on the basis of caste and creed and that too 60 years after independence. I have known people coming to IITs from these backgrounds and facing difficulties in coping up with the curriculum. It is not right even for those seeking admission on the basis of reserved quota as it eventually leads to a feeling of being outcaste and demoralized.
As I mentioned earlier that I believe in equality of opportunities I mean that government instead of providing seats at IITs and IIMs should rather focus on providing the right education from the nursery level itself. It is not correct to put someone straight into an extremely competitive environment with the fundamentals still unclear. If right kind of education is provided right from start they are bound to excel. No one is born a stud, this is what I believe.
PS: Why 49.5%, why not 50, 60, 70 . Are we still playing the psychological game!
As I mentioned earlier that I believe in equality of opportunities I mean that government instead of providing seats at IITs and IIMs should rather focus on providing the right education from the nursery level itself. It is not correct to put someone straight into an extremely competitive environment with the fundamentals still unclear. If right kind of education is provided right from start they are bound to excel. No one is born a stud, this is what I believe.
PS: Why 49.5%, why not 50, 60, 70 . Are we still playing the psychological game!
posted by monks @ 11:54 PM
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oye "no one is a born stud!" :O
I took an offence.
But seriously, this would result in more caste divide. Because now people would see others as Gen/SC/ST/OBC rather than an IITian.
"To counter the same
Personally I am a believer of equality of opportunity not of equality of distribution."
as I am a general category so offcourse i am against the move and if one think logically then even a layman can tell u that something is wrong otherwise as the reservations was there for a long time but the conditions of backward classes are not improved that much adn it only brings agony to other classes... but then how this equality of opportunity can be achieved... because just providing the nursery education and making the fundamentals strong can't make a difference because their family is so illiterate, the father mother or any one in their family can't help them to grow into studd as most of the parents of general category students can ..I do believe, however ,that
"PS: Why 49.5%, why not 50, 60, 70 . Are we still playing the psychological game! "
is a good logic and it is just a psychological move looking after the forthcoming elections in four major constituencies...and I don't know that this increase in reservations brings ecstacy or the agony to the beneficials...lets believe that "in Bhagwan's darbar Der hai andher nahi"
Well i wont start debating whether the decision is right or wrong. And its not even a debate, for a debate has both the pros and cons. Alas, here everything is sadly tilted towards the latter.
One thing which struck my mind after seeing this "magical" figure of 49.5% was FDI in Retail!! The only difference being G in place of F and the extra 0.5% as a commision to VP Singh and Arjun Singh for their so called social responsibilities towards the deprived. And that becomes a GDI - Govt. Dictated Investment.
A direct "dictated investment" to lose everything we could manage in the last 60 years.Soon the IITs/IIMs wont be visible on the world map. (I wonder how many consultancies, I Banks, FMCGs would be interested in coming all the way to the campus after a few years).
I hope that unlike retail, the students from these institutes dont just turn into "nearing expiry - cheap stock clearances" with only the Infys, TCSs and Wipros hogging the campus with a cargo plane......
May good sense prevail among the negligent few....Amen.
good one... man I was saying to my room mate that we should all pick a medium even though small enough to express our protest for this move. Blogs although might seems small but can create a difference. nice arguments.
Well I too have highlighted the same arguments and added some more based on some previous discussion with Singla and others in my blog
"PS: Why 49.5%, why not 50, 60, 70 . Are we still playing the psychological game!"
The actual reason, if at all anybody wants to know is that the constitution allows 50% of reservation, which only requires just the agreement of the cabinet committee...so you're saved with the process of bringing the issue to parliament, which though again being a "political body" might put up some objections...
-> shashank: woh maine tujhe aur mujhe exclude karke bol raha tha.
-> PD: Itna phadu to maine nahi socha tha.. magar tune sahi me kuch points bol ke aankhen khol di.. delhi aake discuss karte hai is issue per..
-> Lulli : Mast consultant language me FDI jaise words use kar raha hai .. acchi analogy magar..
->KT: Thanks dude.. there should be a forum.
->Agro: Yaar teri baatein ab bhi samajh me nahi aati.. kya likha hai ??
abbe..seedhe seedhe likha tha, ki 50% tuk ka reservation ka rule banane ke liye sirf parliamentary committee se acceptance chahiye hota hai, which is too easy to get..for anything more than that you'll have to bring a bill in parliament, which as usual is difficult to pass like the reservation for women bill, jo abhi tuk paas nahin ho paaya hai...
Can we all convert to SC/ST/OBCs? :)) That would make it equal opportunity for all. Decide which half of the seats you are competing for.
I heard OBC certificates can be bought at a low rate if taken in bulk!!
What say guys??
Read a nice editorial in BT. An excerpt : BT is all for affirmative action to help disadvantaged people. But we believe that reservations work better at more basic levels of education. "Quota" students, who have studied upto the high school or grad levels (the min eligibility criteria for IITs and IIMs resp) shud have acquired sufficient proficiency in their chosen fields to be able to enter these institutes on merit.If they still need crutches to help them at this stage, they obviously dont deserve to be there.
dude...one food for thought...try conducting a survey on the number of OBC's other than SC/ST in any IIT...I'm dead sure it will measure to at least 25% of the junta...it absolutely doesn't matter whether it's gonna be 27% or 27.5% all it matters is that this Arjun Singh guy has the brains.
It's just a psychological trump card that Mr Singh's playing to get some votes from the OBC's (which according to you is 50% of the Indian Population)...and 50% is a huge lot.
49.5 bcoz there is a supreme court ruling saying there cannot be 50% or more reservation (i dont remember if 50% is ncluded or not)
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